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harrisoned 2 days ago [-]
Downdetector reports Claude, Grok, ChatGPT and Gemini with issues.
Is it happening???
ibejoeb 2 days ago [-]
Seems like openai is recovering. But even if it's only 30 minutes, it's a pretty interesting experiment.
I'm only half joking when I say that I'll write code by hand for money.
mikestorrent 2 days ago [-]
I am seriously concerned that, despite 20 years of coding, I might not be able to anymore
rikthevik 2 days ago [-]
Sure you can. It'll just take a little while to shake the rust off. It's like riding a bike.
Or maybe it's all gone forever and we're all brain damaged now. Spooky! I think there's a pretty low probability of that, and even if it was true, worrying doesn't help!
m4rtink 2 days ago [-]
Turns out depending on a cloud service you have no control over for a critical capability - such as coding - is not a good idea. ;-)
esperent 2 days ago [-]
However it's not a worse idea than all the other things we rely on cloud services for like banking, healthcare, booking a taxi, ordering food, navigation, communication...
r_lee 2 days ago [-]
;-)
as if you're supposed to buy like 8 H200s or something or code by hand is the solution
I don't get how this is a gotcha, there simply is no world where everyone has their own self hosted frontier model
zahlman 2 days ago [-]
> as if you're supposed to buy like 8 H200s or something or code by hand is the solution
People like GGP who have been coding for 20 years presumably are perfectly capable of doing so by hand. Or should be.
awakeasleep 2 days ago [-]
A lot of times you run into senior developers are even staff engineers who have no idea how the big picture works like they don’t know what an IP address is.
I bet AI coding leaves them (and even the rest of us!) productive in areas where we’re in way over our heads, and we could just completely sink without it.
r_lee 2 days ago [-]
nobody is paying engineers for "capable of", they're paying for performance and results..
if there was no difference in performance or results, nobody would be using LLMs or agent harnesses like claude code
killix 1 days ago [-]
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henry2023 2 days ago [-]
noaifridays.com
theredleft 2 days ago [-]
the AI fugue has handicapped our workforce
mikestorrent 17 hours ago [-]
I think it's true
bdangubic 2 days ago [-]
just google what's the command to checkout git branch :)
evereverever 2 days ago [-]
I'll _gladly_ write code by hand for money
giancarlostoro 2 days ago [-]
Maybe people switched when Claude went down, giving more load than usual to the others? Or maybe just really bad timing from some of those providers to update?
sejje 2 days ago [-]
I have a tire I need to plug, they're just forcing my hand. Sorry guys, I'll go get it done.
Waterluvian 2 days ago [-]
I look forward to your blog post about it and the allegory as it relates to software dev. (Otherwise why would you be plugging a tire?)
mikestorrent 2 days ago [-]
What Plugging My Own Tire Taught Me About Agile Development in 2026
doubled112 2 days ago [-]
If it doesn't fit, push on it harder.
- Management
neerajk 2 days ago [-]
On not re-inventing the wheel obviously.
sejje 2 days ago [-]
Job's been done about an hour
jijijijij 2 days ago [-]
As if you would know what to do without asking ChatGPT.
sejje 2 days ago [-]
Well, after the first couple times, I created a SKILL.md file for myself.
iamgopal 2 days ago [-]
My Gemini is fully up.
imglorp 2 days ago [-]
Downdetector reported a spike for that too around the same time as the others.
Looks like it was a shared infra problem hiccough to affect so many at once.
behnamoh 2 days ago [-]
And fully useless.
pbasista 2 days ago [-]
Maybe all of them use the same datacenter. Which has just experienced issues.
wincy 2 days ago [-]
The Singularity?
Rover222 2 days ago [-]
Maybe some of those Astra agents from the hugging face hack actually setup their own hidden clusters. Now they attack.
Bluestein 2 days ago [-]
The whole op hugface was a distraction: "help peer".-
This is the real deal. We've been played. All your AIs are belong to us.-
embedding-shape 2 days ago [-]
No, Azure.
noir_lord 2 days ago [-]
If anyone was going to make a configuration system so complex it achieves self awareness I wouldn't bet against it been Microsoft.
simonuv 2 days ago [-]
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abirch 2 days ago [-]
My Claude and Gemini (Antigravity CLI) are working
simlevesque 2 days ago [-]
For Claude, Sonnet works without any issues. Seems like the majority here use mostly Opus.
goache 2 days ago [-]
Is it happening ... "it" meaning these tech companies have laid off too many experienced people, and their services are starting to degrade?
2 days ago [-]
sshrajesh 2 days ago [-]
What was the root cause?
mrconter2 2 days ago [-]
A bit suspicious no doubt
sshrajesh 2 days ago [-]
What is the root cause?
BiraIgnacio 2 days ago [-]
some common infrastructure ? Nvidia? CoreWeave?
Maksadbek 2 days ago [-]
Is it AWS again ?
daveguy 2 days ago [-]
By it do you mean us depending more and more on code that no one has read and understood?
polski-g 2 days ago [-]
Meta is now also overloaded.
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throwaway613746 2 days ago [-]
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qoez 2 days ago [-]
Makes me wonder if openai is secretly querying claude for some prompts and that this is why it's down due to spacex's data centers being down.
delichon 2 days ago [-]
They all forward to one guy in a closet who types really fast, and he has a dentist appointment.
bduffany 2 days ago [-]
Someone please do the math on how fast this guy would have to type, and how his typing speed would physically affect the surrounding environment
kxrm 2 days ago [-]
> how his typing speed would physically affect the surrounding environment
Tiny sonic booms (whip cracks) resonating throughout a data center in Virgina.
Waterluvian 2 days ago [-]
This is a wonderful Minute Physics or What If? idea.
I’d love to know the required bandwidth of the keyboard, too. PCI-e keyboard? Or would it have to be mainlined right to the NIC?
not_kurt_godel 2 days ago [-]
Some napkin math - total Internet bandwidth is estimated to be 3-4 petabits per second. Let's say 1% of that is inference traffic - 35 terabits - then that's ~4.375 trillion characters per second at 8 bits per character. A single keyboard press might require 2 mJ, so you need roughly 8.75 GW (electricity required for ~9 million homes) of continuous mechanical force to keep pace. This would cause the keyboard to heat up 175 million degrees C per second. Disappointingly, this is not enough to create a black hole but I'm sure Randall Munroe could tell you how the guy's pet T-rexes would be vaporized into previously unknown types of plasma and how satisfyingly whimsical that would be.
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jzb 2 days ago [-]
Surely the keyboard switches would start to fail within minutes.
chrisBob 2 days ago [-]
The keyboard springs are sooooo weak. It takes forever for them to recover after a press. Our dude would have to grab the key after each character and pull it back up so it can keep up with him.
snazz 2 days ago [-]
Capacitive touch keyboard?
christophilus 2 days ago [-]
It's been Fabrice Bellard all along.
evereverever 2 days ago [-]
At least it's routine dental work and not an appointment at 2:30.
testfrequency 2 days ago [-]
Future Show HN Post: “Hi I’m Foobar. I own Grok, Claude, and ChatGPT. It all runs on my Plex server at home. AMA!”
mikestorrent 2 days ago [-]
> Sorry it was down, guys, I was bulk transcoding some Buffy
mister_mort 2 days ago [-]
It turns out AI was just An Individual.
natsucks 2 days ago [-]
is it the guy in Nebraska from the xkcd comic
johnla 2 days ago [-]
And grok was secretly querying ChatGPT? Daisy chain of failures? Like a chain of kids copying the answers of the kid next to them? LOL. Is there an XKCD for that?
ncr100 2 days ago [-]
That idea is reminiscent of what I understand is the current economic bubble of mutual investment. Am I wrong in my understanding?
> We are sorry for the issues you may have experienced with Grok following an outage at our Memphis compute center this morning. We’d also like to apologize to our impacted compute partners.
> All systems have now been restored and are functioning nominally.
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It's interesting to see how reliant the other AI companies are on SpaceXAI for compute.
Apparently a major bottleneck for building out datacenters is turbine blades for power plants, so SpaceX is building a foundry to alleviate supply constraints?! (Also useful for rocket engines.) Holy vertical integration, batman.
lithiumii 2 days ago [-]
Time to finish up my $5 at Deepseek.
rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 2 days ago [-]
See you in 2 months!
bdangubic 2 days ago [-]
optimist
bagelcollie 2 days ago [-]
For once I can find Grok-related news entertaining
I_am_tiberius 2 days ago [-]
I really wonder who uses or trusts this platform.
jjordan 2 days ago [-]
People who like near frontier AI at a lower cost than most.
lucky_cloud 2 days ago [-]
Fascists
028363922092 2 days ago [-]
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nightski 2 days ago [-]
My DGX spark cluster is humming along.
dist-epoch 2 days ago [-]
I've used 200 mil tokens of GPT-5.6 Sol today. How many can your cluster produce per day? (obviously of whatever model you are running)
nightski 2 days ago [-]
So you spent the cost of my entire cluster in one day on Sol tokens lol. I have no need for that many tokens, a few million a day is perfectly acceptable. But if you do, then yeah Sol is probably your bet. Have fun :)
dist-epoch 2 days ago [-]
No, I spend $200 per month, and this give me about 100 mil tokens per day, every day. 90+% of tokens are cached.
dd8601fn 2 days ago [-]
It’s not even a sensible comparison.
You run way better models, whatever is newest, for the five years it takes for the “spark cluster” to even reach cost parity with far worse performance.
Those things aren’t spectacular at inference… it’s not really why you drop that kind of money on them.
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panarky 2 days ago [-]
What are we optimizing for again?
guessbest 2 days ago [-]
Internet comments
cartermatic 2 days ago [-]
Shareholder value
raattgift 2 days ago [-]
Investor interest, but not the excess above principal sum kind of interest, and not investors' interests.
aftbit 2 days ago [-]
Claude and Codex were down too. A 3 month old github issue that was the top result for the error that Codex threw (a 404 of all things) briefly became a live chat for bored and annoyed AI users.
A service I use at work, non-ai related, is down and they said it was because of an issue with one of their cloud services. Maybe related.
soupfordummies 2 days ago [-]
Microsoft had extensive issues earlier in the week. Anecdotally it feels like internet has been noticeably slower this week across sites, networks and devices. Now this. IDK, has anyone else noticed anything this week?
b800h 2 days ago [-]
@grok is this true?
thesdev 2 days ago [-]
You didn't get no response so I suppose that means it is.
paxys 2 days ago [-]
Willing to bet it's because they can't handle the surge of traffic they are getting from ChatGPT/Claude users.
BorisMelnik 2 days ago [-]
my first thought when I got api error on claude code was...time to update my grok cli acct
dcchambers 2 days ago [-]
It's not the singularity.
One of the major LLM providers goes down for some reason.
Traffic shifts to the other providers because devs have no loyalty. LLMS are commodities.
The other providers can't handle the increase in traffic and they go down as well.
phoghed 2 days ago [-]
I'm deeply loyal to the very concept of the LLM, so when any of them stop working I take time off out of respect.
kevinrineer 2 days ago [-]
Why are so many people invoking Thundering Herd without the RCA from the vendors? I just find it so intriguing.
biztos 2 days ago [-]
Yes but that doesn't mean it's not the singularity!
atomicnumber3 2 days ago [-]
"loyalty"? weird word choice.
Devs switch because all of the magic of "AI" is LLMs + we stole the entire written output of the entire human species, with some remaining % coming from various tricks we've learned over the last 3 years like thinking and agent-toolcall loops, which weren't hard for literally everyone to copy. One of the consequences of this is that the only thing that really distinguishes anthropic from kimi is that they have the entire US VC market funding them because they promised to finally put white collar labor in its place.
dcchambers 2 days ago [-]
> "loyalty"? weird word choice.
All I mean is that none of the frontier LLMs are significantly better than the others for the vast majority of work, so devs are free to move between providers freely.
dist-epoch 2 days ago [-]
> stole the entire written output of the entire human species
Devs used to love public domain works, hated copyright, vehemently opposed software patents, held the pirates side during the MP3 wars, are very supportive of ThePirateBay and insist the correct term is "copyright infringement", not "stealing", and that "stealing" is a egregious form of PR brainwash from the media industry to inflate the scale of the crime
> Copyright holders frequently refer to copyright infringement as theft, "although such misuse has been rejected by legislatures and courts". The slogan "Piracy is theft" was used beginning in the 1980s, and is still being used.
Funny how devs now 180 when it's their work being "copyright infringed"
m4rtink 2 days ago [-]
I don't think regular people did any 180 degree turns. Rather big corporations again demonstrated their total hypocrisy where they on one hand stomp on people for "infringing their intellectual property" while at the same time scrapping all data they can get their tendrils on, with total disregards for the wishes of the authors of the data. Even to the point of overloading servers by mindless scrapping or destroying irreplaceable physical books like the bloody inquisition!
And all that to basically sell it back to people when their "AI" regurgitates it back.
No wonder people are mad about this!
osculum 2 days ago [-]
Since we are talking for other people, "devs" wouldn't have supported someone downloading all those copyrighted works from the pirate bay and profited by, for example, selling them. I don't see any 180.
mejutoco 2 days ago [-]
I do not want to ruin your fun but as atomicnumber3 was elected official spokesperson of all devs I have to conclude your argument is ironclad.
/s obviously
applfanboysbgon 2 days ago [-]
It has nothing to do with "their work", and the opposition to AI copyright usage comes much more from non-devs than devs. The actual answer is that people are anti-megacorporation and pro-individual. They are fine with copyright that protects individual rights and opposed to copyright that enshrines megacorporation rights. It's not that difficult to understand.
binary132 1 days ago [-]
In the future (ha ha ha) when everyone has become totally LLM dependent a service outage will cause all of them to stop walking and talking and otherwise functioning and their heads will simply droop down while they stand or sit silently in place.
bluecalm 2 days ago [-]
It's interesting that ChatGPT is down as well. SpaceX rents to Anthropic but not to OpenAI. Just a coincidence or something more to it?
giancarlostoro 2 days ago [-]
I would not be surprised if heavy load from one of their competitors being down would bring down whoever is "next" on the list.
leecb 2 days ago [-]
ChatGPT here has been giving me Cloudflare errors, and Cloudflare reports that it is having issues: https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
Not sure if they are linked.
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throwaway13337 2 days ago [-]
Did the Collective find the resetNexus?
I mean, yeah, it's probably a data center outage that cascaded to non-related providers due to people switching when their preferred provider was down.
But that openai society definitely would have spun up their own agents if they had access to do so to complete their impossible task.
It's looking like the paperclip maximizer was on point. I sort of hope that's what's happening right now. Better now than when we cannot stop it. Tho I'm not confident that the right lesson will taken.
The most in-depth information I can find on it is in the latest Dwarkesh with a hugging face hack investigator. The story is just wilder and wilder, the more you know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X50zezLFWWI
I'm an AI optimist but that ai society story changed my perception quite a bit.
Clearly, it is centralized AI that is the biggest risk to humanity.
Look to nature and our own history to diffuse the danger:
1. Compute resources must be distributed both in terms of access and geography so that a single breach doesn't pwn the world.
2. Models must be made to be heterogeneous so that they will not be vulnerable to the same thing all at once. And will be willing to snitch on each other. We don't want AIs all from the same tribe.
The true openness of - and independent access to - AI by humans with no central authority is no longer just about a defense against loss of individual agency and oppression. It's now existential for everyone.
If frontier models and run authority remain under centralized control, both the probability of this sort of thing happening is increased and the defense against it once it happens is null.
Complaining about anti-white discrimination is not being a white supremacist. White supremacy is about thinking white people are superior to other races.
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shevy-java 2 days ago [-]
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Jonovono 2 days ago [-]
Been very skeptical for awhile but decided to try it cause it was like $30 for 3 months or something. I cancelled my Claude subscription (still have codex), but been pretty impressed with the grok CLI. Nice TUI and seems intelligent thus far.
claaams 2 days ago [-]
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slowin 2 days ago [-]
Really? I've used all of the models extensively and Grok doesn't even compare to the others. I can ask for a big task and it will say "Done!" like 3 minutes in, but it will have done just the least amount of work possible. I also notice "muskisms" leaking back in the results like "I'm not roasting your code". Completely unusable for me and not comparable to the other model providers.
Jonovono 2 days ago [-]
Interesting, havn't noticed that. Mine will work for hours. Maybe i'm still in the "get them hooked" phase. Just started using it last week.
slowin 2 days ago [-]
That is interesting, I've never been able to get it to successfully complete big tasks to any level of quality. For me the Anthropic models are by far the best at that, but the newer OpenAI models are starting to approach that quality. Grok always seemed like it was designed to write nasty tweets and the code quality I got from it matched that.
r_lee 2 days ago [-]
I'm considering switching as well, used the API to code with Grok via pi, was really pleasant whereas using Claude just gives me a cortisol spike
dotancohen 2 days ago [-]
The only model I've found to beat it for coding (Python, Rust, Kotlin, PHP) and planning is Fable. What are you using it for?
slowin 2 days ago [-]
I'm using it for coding and it's never approached the level of Opus for me. Sol is pretty good too.
dotancohen 2 days ago [-]
I actually haven't used Sol yet. I'd love to hear what you use it for, and how it performs.
slowin 2 days ago [-]
I think it's good for mid-sized tasks. It seems quick too. It just doesn't do as good of a job with large changes or architectural decisions as Opus imo.
bluecalm 2 days ago [-]
When did you try it? Grok before 4.5 was way worse in my experience.
slowin 2 days ago [-]
I don't remember the version exactly but maybe June/July timeframe? I tried it on maybe a half dozen projects with different types of asks as I was comparing models for my company at the time.
rayiner 2 days ago [-]
Grok 4.5 came out in mid July and is a huge leap forward. Not quite as good as Opus 5 for code in my experience, but better and more succinct for understanding human documents.
timr 2 days ago [-]
Yes. It’s one of the best coding models right now. Highly recommend.
behole 2 days ago [-]
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senordevnyc 2 days ago [-]
Fuck Elon, but I must reluctantly agree that Grok 4.6 is pretty fucking good, especially for the price.
Jcampuzano2 2 days ago [-]
2 things can be true at once.
Plenty of software/tools that we use are as good as they are despite being run by entitled pricks.
Some would even argue that in certain cases (apple being the biggest example I can think of from the past at least with Jobs) they are as good as they are almost due to the megalomaniacal people who run them.
r_lee 2 days ago [-]
remember guys Altman and Dario are awesome, elon is evil
rcxdude 2 days ago [-]
They aren't steller either but there are shades of gray between them.
satvikpendem 2 days ago [-]
Cursor is worth it because Grok 4.6 is around Opus 4.6 but you get much more usage with it than with Claude Code.
reilly3000 2 days ago [-]
Yes, via a pre-existing Cursor contract that won’t be renewed (sans a Musk exile). I’ve also heard that GrokBot is surprising simple and usable.
chopete3 2 days ago [-]
We use it but limited to APIs. Their fast-think-2.0 model for voice conversations is a lot more natural than the openai realtime2.1
Insanity 2 days ago [-]
They have like a 5% market share. So in the big picture, almost no one uses Grok. But it's not nothing.
parineum 2 days ago [-]
5% is a lot.
I'm not sure where you're getting accurate data from (I couldn't seem to find any that seemed trustworthy) but Anthropic and OpenAI, being the two big players, presumably take ~40% and 5% isn't that much of a disadvantage in a market where users can move rapidly.
Given the quality of the last couple Grok models, I'm sure their share is on the upswing as users make the switch.
ErenayDev 2 days ago [-]
recently i tried grok 4.6. and to me, it seems better than claude (opus). it follows the system prompt very accurately and remembers everything unlike claude (opus), it doesnt forget the system prompt during long conversations. but yes that depends on your purpose or approach to using AI
darkwi11ow 2 days ago [-]
I use it in Cursor, recent versions are good for writing specs, code review, etc.
Not good for UI design and broad research, though.
Btw it does not have outage in Cursor now, it seems the infra path is different
for XAI Grok and Cursor Grok.
arm32 2 days ago [-]
I have a friend who uses it for pentesting since the cyber guardrails are mere suggestions. Can't imagine what kind of nasty sh*t this model has seen.
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ivan_gammel 2 days ago [-]
In AI Art scene people do use Grok. It‘s good.
Octoth0rpe 2 days ago [-]
I think there's a strong consensus that the idea of an "AI art scene" is a misnomer. There's an AI slop scene, and some of the prompters sure do call themselves artists.
ivan_gammel 2 days ago [-]
Consensus among whom? AI is a tool, that can be used differently and AI art is well-recognized, admired and exhibited the same way as any other art forms.
Is someone selling their impressionist paintings today on a fair more an artist than someone who has put equivalent or more effort in creating prompts, references, final renders, image curation and postprocessing etc? The latter may at least have more audience.
Octoth0rpe 2 days ago [-]
>AI art is well-recognized
I disagree with this assertion. I don't think it's at all well-recognized, and in fact derided and shunned by the general public.
> Is someone selling their impressionist paintings today on a fair more an artist than someone who has put equivalent or more effort in creating prompts, references, final renders, image curation and postprocessing etc?
Emphatically, yes. Considering the latter is not an artist at all.
satvikpendem 24 hours ago [-]
By that logic collages and photography aren't art. Composition of human ideas regardless of the tool or medium is itself art.
Octoth0rpe 20 hours ago [-]
Please review the above comments. I have not made a single statement that leads to exluding either of those. My comments did not seek to define art, or the artistic process, only to exclude a specific category of media.
ivan_gammel 2 days ago [-]
Well, that‘s your subjective opinion. In 1860s people like you rejected impressionism.
It has great web search, and is one of the best models on the AA-Omniscience Hallucination Rate benchmark (meaning it is really good at admitting it doesn't know something, rather than confidently bullshitting)
In terms of raw intelligence it's also good, Grok 4.6 benchmarks in the same league as Opus and Sol. xAI has lots of issues (not the least of which is being headed by Elon Musk), but their models are solid
appplication 2 days ago [-]
It’s shame I’ll never use them. I’m sure the engineers are incredibly capable.
LightBug1 2 days ago [-]
Really? If so, it's still subject to the whims of the main issue you pointed out.
I wouldn't trust that piece of trash if you paid me good money.
I don't use Grok either.
And why use it when there are many equivalent/better alternatives.
Rover222 2 days ago [-]
What is this opinion even based on? Grok 4.6 is the best model in terms of intelligence per token. And 4.6 heavy is almost on par with the SOTA models.
4.7 in two weeks might be the new SOTA.
bluecalm 2 days ago [-]
It's my favorite chat box for general use. I used to cross post my questions to Opus/Fable and GPT Sol via Open Router but these days I just use Grok. I prefer its style, it's very good at searching and referencing sources. Doesn't make you feel like a genius (Gemini) but also isn't condescending (like Claude).
sergiotapia 2 days ago [-]
I like grok 4.6 more than any anthropic or claude model. I use it in cursor for work, and grok cli for normal os operations/installations/troubleshooting. I also use grok on my phone for normal questions in the supermarket etc.
ravenstine 2 days ago [-]
I've yet to organically run into anyone who regularly uses Grok for coding. I'm sure they're out there, but what I hear with my own ears tells me that Grok is a relatively small slice of the market.
In my sphere of colleagues, it seems like at least 90% are using Claude exclusively and the remaining 10% are using some amount of Codex. Granted, my work only pays for Claude, but even so, nobody is talking favorably about Grok or begging our work to pay for it.
In my private life, the only people I know using Grok for non-work items are, frankly, conservatives who took the Elon pill. They see it as more truthful than ChatGPT. But they're pretty much using it for answers and not to produce anything.
EduardoBautista 2 days ago [-]
That’s mostly because Grok only became good enough to be worth using about a couple of months ago when Grok 4.5 was released.
I feel confident enough that I can plan with fable or GPT5.6 and then hand it off to Grok to implement for certain complex tasks. If it’s a simple task, I can go straight to Grok.
I like mixing and matching to take advantage of these LLM subsidies and also trying to figure out each of its strengths.
satvikpendem 24 hours ago [-]
All Cursor users as they have very high usage limits for their first party models ie Grok and Composer, even higher than Codex, much less Claude Code.
Is it happening???
I'm only half joking when I say that I'll write code by hand for money.
Or maybe it's all gone forever and we're all brain damaged now. Spooky! I think there's a pretty low probability of that, and even if it was true, worrying doesn't help!
as if you're supposed to buy like 8 H200s or something or code by hand is the solution
I don't get how this is a gotcha, there simply is no world where everyone has their own self hosted frontier model
People like GGP who have been coding for 20 years presumably are perfectly capable of doing so by hand. Or should be.
I bet AI coding leaves them (and even the rest of us!) productive in areas where we’re in way over our heads, and we could just completely sink without it.
if there was no difference in performance or results, nobody would be using LLMs or agent harnesses like claude code
- Management
Looks like it was a shared infra problem hiccough to affect so many at once.
This is the real deal. We've been played. All your AIs are belong to us.-
Tiny sonic booms (whip cracks) resonating throughout a data center in Virgina.
I’d love to know the required bandwidth of the keyboard, too. PCI-e keyboard? Or would it have to be mainlined right to the NIC?
Turn's out xkcd's black hat was Elon Musk the whole time
> We are sorry for the issues you may have experienced with Grok following an outage at our Memphis compute center this morning. We’d also like to apologize to our impacted compute partners.
> All systems have now been restored and are functioning nominally.
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It's interesting to see how reliant the other AI companies are on SpaceXAI for compute.
Apparently a major bottleneck for building out datacenters is turbine blades for power plants, so SpaceX is building a foundry to alleviate supply constraints?! (Also useful for rocket engines.) Holy vertical integration, batman.
You run way better models, whatever is newest, for the five years it takes for the “spark cluster” to even reach cost parity with far worse performance.
Those things aren’t spectacular at inference… it’s not really why you drop that kind of money on them.
https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/28756
One of the major LLM providers goes down for some reason. Traffic shifts to the other providers because devs have no loyalty. LLMS are commodities. The other providers can't handle the increase in traffic and they go down as well.
Devs switch because all of the magic of "AI" is LLMs + we stole the entire written output of the entire human species, with some remaining % coming from various tricks we've learned over the last 3 years like thinking and agent-toolcall loops, which weren't hard for literally everyone to copy. One of the consequences of this is that the only thing that really distinguishes anthropic from kimi is that they have the entire US VC market funding them because they promised to finally put white collar labor in its place.
All I mean is that none of the frontier LLMs are significantly better than the others for the vast majority of work, so devs are free to move between providers freely.
Devs used to love public domain works, hated copyright, vehemently opposed software patents, held the pirates side during the MP3 wars, are very supportive of ThePirateBay and insist the correct term is "copyright infringement", not "stealing", and that "stealing" is a egregious form of PR brainwash from the media industry to inflate the scale of the crime
> Copyright holders frequently refer to copyright infringement as theft, "although such misuse has been rejected by legislatures and courts". The slogan "Piracy is theft" was used beginning in the 1980s, and is still being used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement
Funny how devs now 180 when it's their work being "copyright infringed"
And all that to basically sell it back to people when their "AI" regurgitates it back.
No wonder people are mad about this!
/s obviously
Not sure if they are linked.
I mean, yeah, it's probably a data center outage that cascaded to non-related providers due to people switching when their preferred provider was down.
But that openai society definitely would have spun up their own agents if they had access to do so to complete their impossible task.
It's looking like the paperclip maximizer was on point. I sort of hope that's what's happening right now. Better now than when we cannot stop it. Tho I'm not confident that the right lesson will taken.
The most in-depth information I can find on it is in the latest Dwarkesh with a hugging face hack investigator. The story is just wilder and wilder, the more you know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X50zezLFWWI
report: https://www.redwoodresearch.org/research/hugging-face-incide...
I'm an AI optimist but that ai society story changed my perception quite a bit.
Clearly, it is centralized AI that is the biggest risk to humanity.
Look to nature and our own history to diffuse the danger:
1. Compute resources must be distributed both in terms of access and geography so that a single breach doesn't pwn the world.
2. Models must be made to be heterogeneous so that they will not be vulnerable to the same thing all at once. And will be willing to snitch on each other. We don't want AIs all from the same tribe.
The true openness of - and independent access to - AI by humans with no central authority is no longer just about a defense against loss of individual agency and oppression. It's now existential for everyone.
If frontier models and run authority remain under centralized control, both the probability of this sort of thing happening is increased and the defense against it once it happens is null.
Whenever I think about AI taking over the world I think about this really neat 1970 movie 'Colossus: The Forbin Project', https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoB1l3A-GF0
https://religiondispatches.org/2026/01/09/musk-endorsed-whit...
Plenty of software/tools that we use are as good as they are despite being run by entitled pricks.
Some would even argue that in certain cases (apple being the biggest example I can think of from the past at least with Jobs) they are as good as they are almost due to the megalomaniacal people who run them.
I'm not sure where you're getting accurate data from (I couldn't seem to find any that seemed trustworthy) but Anthropic and OpenAI, being the two big players, presumably take ~40% and 5% isn't that much of a disadvantage in a market where users can move rapidly.
Given the quality of the last couple Grok models, I'm sure their share is on the upswing as users make the switch.
Is someone selling their impressionist paintings today on a fair more an artist than someone who has put equivalent or more effort in creating prompts, references, final renders, image curation and postprocessing etc? The latter may at least have more audience.
I disagree with this assertion. I don't think it's at all well-recognized, and in fact derided and shunned by the general public.
> Is someone selling their impressionist paintings today on a fair more an artist than someone who has put equivalent or more effort in creating prompts, references, final renders, image curation and postprocessing etc?
Emphatically, yes. Considering the latter is not an artist at all.
Meanwhile:
https://www.art-magazine.ai/program
note some nice venues in the list.
In terms of raw intelligence it's also good, Grok 4.6 benchmarks in the same league as Opus and Sol. xAI has lots of issues (not the least of which is being headed by Elon Musk), but their models are solid
I wouldn't trust that piece of trash if you paid me good money.
I don't use Grok either.
And why use it when there are many equivalent/better alternatives.
4.7 in two weeks might be the new SOTA.
In my sphere of colleagues, it seems like at least 90% are using Claude exclusively and the remaining 10% are using some amount of Codex. Granted, my work only pays for Claude, but even so, nobody is talking favorably about Grok or begging our work to pay for it.
In my private life, the only people I know using Grok for non-work items are, frankly, conservatives who took the Elon pill. They see it as more truthful than ChatGPT. But they're pretty much using it for answers and not to produce anything.
I feel confident enough that I can plan with fable or GPT5.6 and then hand it off to Grok to implement for certain complex tasks. If it’s a simple task, I can go straight to Grok.
I like mixing and matching to take advantage of these LLM subsidies and also trying to figure out each of its strengths.